Um, there is. Hence the reason people are charged with statutory rape and have “statutory rape” on their record. And it is the name of a legal crime - I’m sure you’ve never been around someone charged with that or the underage participant, as it is abundantly clear that you do not understand.
It wasn’t statutory rape in Oregon, therefore you are wrong about him having committed statutory rape. That is a fact. He did not commit statutory rape.
You don’t understand what statutory rape is, I fear. Statutory rape implies consent because consent is fucking there. Emma consented to sex with Neal. The reason statutory rape is not as severe as rape or date rape is because the other participant fucking gave consent. Why are they considered unable to give consent? Because a twat back in God knows when decided that there is an age of consent. Never mind the fact that 16 year old girls were marrying 30 year old men.
When it is statutory rape, the “underage” participant gave their consent but the law said their consent was not worth anything.
But Neal didn’t even commit statutory rape. I don’t understand why that’s so difficult for you to understand. According to the law, which is what you continue to use despite the fact that it is pitted against you, Neal did not commit statutory rape.
Why do we differentiate between statutory rape and rape? Because statutory rape is sex with consent, but people decided to make a certain age to do so.
Statutory rape - sexual intercourse with a minor. In some states, the age changes and therefore the laws change and whatnot.
Rape - the compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse; an act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
THAT is why there is a difference. In statutory rape, one participant does not force it upon the other. Please don’t try labeling Neal as a rapist when you are ignoring the facts. Just because you don’t know legal terms does not mean you can throw different accusations around. You learn the legal terms so you don’t unjustly accuse someone of something they did not do.
And it is grasping at straws because you are ignoring all context in order to manipulate everything to fit your argument.
The research I did suggested that it was not a specific crime, but it is entirely possible that somewhere ‘statutory rape’ is the legal name of the crime, I don’t know the laws of every country on earth. I didn’t come across any, but that is not to say they don’t exist.
As I have pointed out many times now, I am not using it as a legal term, I am using the general definition of the term. In the English language many words have multiple definitions, and often things mean different things in a legal sense when they do when used generally. In some places the legal term is ‘rape of a child’, would you prefer I use that if you are so keen on using legal terms?
I am not using the law, I am not making any kind of legal argument. I am not claiming he legally did anything. You are the one who keeps talking about the correct legal term for an adult who has sex with a child. I am not qualified to make a legal argument which is why I am not doing so.
I never said that if he had been caught and arrested he would have been charged with ‘Statutory Rape’. I am saying that his actions fit the definition of what is generally meant by the term statutory rape. The same way I might use assault, or stalking, or domestic violence, other areas where the common term for the crime is not necessarily the legal one.
I am saying he was an adult who had sex with someone under the age of consent, which is something we usually refer to as statutory rape (whatever the actual name of the crime you would be charged with where you are). Henry is proof that they had sex when Emma was under the age of consent.
And if you honestly believe that having sex with someone who is unable to give consent is not sex under force or duress then we are not going to to come to an agreement. I have very strong views on consent and your argument is that someone who cannot consent consented. Which means we must have completely different views on what it means to consent.
As far as I am concerned sex without consent is rape. End of story. I don’t care why you cannot consent, if you can’t consent it is rape if someone has sex with you.
And there is no need to manipulate the anything, context does not change their ages.
And the power imbalance between a 24 year old and an 16/17 year old would be so great that consent would be almost impossible regardless of the legal age of consent. We would of been on shaky consent ground even if the age of consent had been 16.
And the fact that you are more concerned about the proper name for an adult getting a child pregnant that the fact that an adult got a child pregnant honestly scares me.
Emma had been on her own, on the streets, since she was sixteen; she’d either run away from her last placement or been emancipated; I forget which. But mentally and emotionally she hadn’t been a “child” for quite a while. She’d been living on the streets for at least a year and she met Neal stealing a fucking car, and it obviously wasn’t her first time stealing something. Don’t pretend that Emma was some poor, innocent, naive thing that Neal led astray and took advantage of.
Hansel and Gretel had been on their own, on the streets (or forests) for years too. They were stealing, for what obviously not the first time. Does that make them mentally and emotionally adults?
Being forced to survive on your own as a child does not make you an adult.
I’ve been trying not to get involved in this conversation but I do feel the need to say one thing.
Emma was grown emotionally yes. But when it comes to love and relationships she was starved of that. She was alone. She had no idea about sex or sex in relationships or how love is or any of that. She was, from what we saw, completely new to it. Not that Neal was necessarily her first, but one of. Emma was shown to be naive about personal relationships. Growing up tough and on your own doesn’t make you an adult in every way. Only in some ways. And the relationship Emma was in with Neal she was at a disadvantage because she didn’t know how to deal with her emotions or what was happening or how to make sure she didn’t get hurt badly. She put herself completely in like anyone in love as a teenager. But that’s the thing. She’s still a kid at heart.
Yeah she was an adult in many ways, in how she had to survive on her own and take care of herself, but she was also a kid, bright eyed and idealistic about love. About finding someone who would pick her and stick with her. Emma found someone to rely on for the first time in her life and she hadn’t learned yet that love isn’t always what we want it to be. So in that situation, Emma’s age was indeed a factor. Because no matter how grown up she was through other things, the fact of the matter is that she wasn’t equipped to deal with a sexual relationship as intense and important to her as the one she had with Neal was. Which is what makes the jail thing so much more heartbreaking for her.
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- “You are used to seeing Nina as Elena,this sweet,caring teenager. ”
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